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作者: shimianmaifu    时间: 2008-12-1 14:45     标题: 哈佛图书馆墙上的训言(中英文对照)

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1. This moment will nap, you will have a dream; But this moment study,you will
interpreta dream.
1.此刻打盹，你将做梦；而此刻学习，你将圆梦。
2. I leave uncultivated today, was precisely yesterday perishestomorrow which person
of the body implored.
2.我荒废的今日，正是昨日殒身之人祈求的明日。
3. Thought is already is late, exactly is the earliest time.
3.觉得为时已晚的时候，恰恰是最早的时候。
4. Not matter of the today will drag tomorrow.
4.勿将今日之事拖到明日。
5. Time the study pain is temporary, has not learned the pain is life-long.
5.学习时的苦痛是暂时的，未学到的痛苦是终生的。
6. Studies this matter, lacks the time, but is lacks diligently.
6.学习这件事，不是缺乏时间，而是缺乏努力。
7. Perhaps happiness does not arrange the position, but succeeds must arrange the
position.
7.幸福或许不排名次，但成功必排名次。
8. The study certainly is not the life complete. But, since continuallylife part of
- studies also is unable to conquer, what but also can make?
8.学习并不是人生的全部。但，既然连人生的一部分——学习也无法征服，还能做什么呢？
9. Please enjoy the pain which is unable to avoid.
9.请享受无法回避的痛苦。
10. Only has compared to the others early, diligently diligently, can feel the
successful taste.
10.只有比别人更早、更勤奋地努力，才能尝到成功的滋味。
11. Nobody can casually succeed, it comes from the thoroughself-control and the
will.
11.谁也不能随随便便成功，它来自彻底的自我管理和毅力。
12. The time is passing.
12.时间在流逝。
13. Now drips the saliva, will become tomorrow the tear.
13.现在流的口水，将成为明天的眼泪。
14. The dog equally study, the gentleman equally plays.
14.狗一样地学，绅士一样地玩。
15. Today does not walk, will have to run tomorrow.
15.今天不走，明天要跑。
16. The investment future person will be, will be loyal to the reality person.
16.投资未来的人是忠于现实的人。
17. The education level represents the income.
17.受教育程度代表收入。
18. One day, has not been able again to come.
18.一天过完，不会再来。
19. Even if the present, the match does not stop changes the page.
19.即使现在，对手也不停地翻动书页。
20. Has not been difficult, then does not have attains.
20.没有艰辛，便无所获。
作者: 塔塔静    时间: 2008-12-5 18:57

everyone knows these,but seldom can do well!
作者: yoyo530521    时间: 2008-12-6 08:14

确实阿。 静分析的很对。
作者: pader2    时间: 2008-12-6 21:58

if you can do it ,you are success.
作者: 塔塔静    时间: 2008-12-10 21:02

原帖由 pader2 于 2008-12-6 09:58 PM 发表
if you can do it ,you are success.

亲，应该是you will be successful哦！要注意词性哈！~或者你可以说you will succeed!

[ 本帖最后由 塔塔静 于 2008-12-10 09:04 PM 编辑 ]
作者: wysxp    时间: 2008-12-24 16:40

太强了！！！！！！！！！！！！！！
作者: cxc1971101    时间: 2009-1-10 18:09

18. One day, has not been able again to come.
18.一天过完，不会再来。
作者: 漫步爱琴海    时间: 2009-1-15 23:46

It is easier said than done.
作者: 漫步爱琴海    时间: 2009-1-15 23:49

It is easier said than done.
作者: vlucky314    时间: 2009-4-9 12:15

我喜欢第一句  很经典
作者: xln1120    时间: 2009-4-9 14:47

Easier said than done.
作者: 凉茶    时间: 2010-11-19 22:29     标题: 哈佛图书馆馆训（伪）

本帖最后由 凉茶 于 2010-12-26 22:24 编辑

哈佛图书馆馆训:
1．现在睡觉的话会做梦而现在学习的话会让梦实现
This moment will nap, you will have a dream; But this moment study, you will interpret a dream.

2．我无所事事地度过的今天是昨天死去的人们所奢望的明天
I leave uncultivated today, was precisely yesterday
perishes tomorrow which person of the body implored.

3．感到晚了的时候其实是最快的时候
Thought is already is late, exactly is the earliest time.

4．不要把今天的事拖到明天
Not matter of the today will drag tomorrow.

5．学习的痛苦是一时的而没有学习的痛苦是一辈子的
Time the study pain is temporary, has not learned the pain is life-long.

6．学习不是人生的全部但连学习都征服不了你还能做什么？
The study certainly is not the life complete. But, since continually life part of - studies also is unable to conquer, what but also can make?   



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7．学习不是因为缺少时间而是缺少努力
Studies this matter, lacks the time, but is lacks diligently.

8．所有人的成功都不是偶然的
Nobody can casually succeed, it comes from the thorough self-control and the will.

9.无法避免的痛苦就去享受吧！
Please enjoy the pain which is unable to avoid.

10．早起的鸟儿有虫吃
Only has compared to the others early, diligently, can feel the successful taste.

11．成功并不属于每个人
Nobody can casually succeed

12.时间在流逝
HOW time flies

13.今天流下的口水将变成明天流下的泪水
Now drips the saliva, will become tomorrow the tear
作者: xiaomeixin    时间: 2010-11-21 10:03

5．学习的痛苦是一时的而没有学习的痛苦是一辈子的
Time the study pain is temporary, has not learned the pain is life-long.

If we study hard when we are a child,then we will be easy in the future.
作者: youxiaxiaolala    时间: 2010-11-21 10:56

不要把今天的事拖到明天
Not matter of the today will drag tomorrow.

I think it is the most important!
作者: 凉茶    时间: 2010-11-22 21:53

回复 2# xiaomeixin


    you can say that again!
作者: 凉茶    时间: 2010-11-22 21:54

回复 3# youxiaxiaolala


    yes! Don't put off till tomorrow what should be done today!
作者: KeepUp    时间: 2010-11-25 17:22

treasure time
作者: TheYeti    时间: 2010-12-24 12:11

哈佛大学图书馆凌晨四点半的景象,哈佛图书馆自习室墙上的训言是编造的.
英语版是超烂,错到不清不楚，狗屁不通的英语!
Please read 无中生有瞎扯的,  笑破肚子的超烂英语 哈佛图书馆自习室墙上的训言
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请用谷歌或百度搜索 笑破肚子的超烂英语: 哈佛图书馆自习室墙上的训言 , 哈佛墙上的训言开国际玩笑 作者承认编造,或 瞎扯的《哈佛大学图书馆警句》或 哈佛图书馆墙上的训言居然是假货
作者: TheYeti    时间: 2010-12-24 12:37

Please consider removing this. The English is software translated trash, NOT APPROPRIATE FOR AN ENGLISH LEARNING WEB SITE.
作者: TheYeti    时间: 2010-12-24 12:40

3. Thought is already is late, exactly is the earliest time. 两个"is" "Thought is already is late"是说什么？？
5. Time the study pain is temporary, has not learned the pain is life-long. "Time the study" 是说什么？
6. Studies this matter, lacks the time, but is lacks diligently."is lacks" 是什么语法？; "lacks diligently" 是什么语法？不符合任何哪门子英语语法。
10. Only has compared to the others early, diligently diligently, can feel the successful taste. " diligently diligently"??!!
14. The dog equally study, the gentleman equally plays. dog 单数, study复数
19. Even if the present, the match does not stop changes the page. 这句是说什么？
20. Has not been difficult, then does not have attains.这句是说什么？
先有中文，(出自一个中国人的手， 不是哈佛的), 后有人用 yahoo的 babelfish 把 "此刻打盹，你将做梦；而此刻学习，你将圆梦译成"This moment will nap, you will have a dream; But this moment study,you will interpret a dream." 把"6.学习这件事，不是缺乏时间，而是缺乏努力。" 译成语法错误的"...is lacks diligently."之后,有更错的英语版, 如把 "淌的哈喇子，"( 13.现在淌的哈喇子，将成为明天的眼泪.)淌的哈喇子译成 不知所云的软件译的英语"Halazi mobility", "20.没有艰辛，便无所获。 "译成 不知所云的 "Not difficult, it nil."

起先传是"哈佛图书馆自习室墙上凌晨4点中国学生涂鸦留言" 后摇身一变成为"哈佛大学图书馆的墙壁上，镶嵌着这样20条训言"!有人说可能起源于 2008 第7期《读者》,但是《读者》,往往抄袭互联网上的资料，而不检查其真实性.

把它拿给哈佛看看，说是它们的训言， 它们一定笑死或气死。哈佛图书管墙上没有这样的烂英语训言。把它拿给哈佛看看，说是它们的训言， 它们一定笑死或气死。哈佛图书管墙上没有这样的烂英语训言。

这是网上误传的. 并不是哈佛大学图书馆警句. 英语都是错到不清不楚， 那会是“哈佛校训, 书馆自习室墙上的训言“? 更且这样的训言显得也太功利了点，与哈佛的校训风格和目标截然不同. (哈佛大学校训原文是拉丁文： “Amicus Plato, Amicus Aristotle, sed Magis Amicus Veritas.” (Make friends with Plato and Aristotle, but above all, make friends with Truth 与柏拉图为友
，与亚里士多德为友，更要与真理为友).
作者: 凉茶    时间: 2010-12-24 18:07

本帖最后由 凉茶 于 2010-12-24 18:10 编辑

回复 8# TheYeti


    我一个个来说啊！

     第一个你说的啊~
Thought is already is late,exactly is the earliest time觉得为时已晚的时候，恰恰是最早的时候。 也就是说无论什么事情，你发现了错误，想改变，这说明你还有希望，并不会为时已晚。

把这句话补形：(When you )thought (it) is already (it) is late, exactly (it ) is the earliest time.When you 可以省略主要是it 首先，两个分句的后一个it相同，也就是主语相同，那么它们就能省略，其实后一个is也确实都可以省去吧。而第一个it是形势主语，意思是这已经是...不知理解是不是对的~
作者: 凉茶    时间: 2010-12-24 18:10

回复 8# TheYeti


    第2个吧~Time the study pain is temporary, has not learned the pain is life-long。

意思是：“学习时的苦痛只是暂时的，而未学到的痛苦将是终生的！！！”

1.主语是：time
   主干是：time is temporary,time is life-long               
           时间是短暂的，时间是终生的。

2.逗号后面其实省略了一些成分。看多了英语谚语你就会感觉到。
  （but time ）has not learned the pain is life-long

3.“the study pain ”和“has not learned the pain ”
   都是做定语成分。修饰time：什么样的时间呢？哦~"学习时感到痛苦的时间" 后面是"没有学到东西时感到痛苦的时间"
作者: TheYeti    时间: 2010-12-24 22:16

回复 10# 凉茶

I think you have missed the point.


The important point is that there are no such inscriptions. Moreover, these fabricated tenets run contrary to the spirit of Harvard. Of less importance is that the version you have here is machine- translated trash.


It is difficult for me to present the complete picture without leaving references (URLs), but I'll give it a try anyway.


1. Quote from Global Times >> Commentary
How many Harvard mottos needed to educate our pupils?
Source: Global Times [22:49 February 19 2010]Comments
By Wu Meng
Recently, a news report by some Chinese media on the origin of some well-known quotations caused a nationwide controversy.


The mottos among students and even in academia quoted by the library of the world-famous Harvard University were all made up by a writer named Danny Feng, whose book The Quotes on Harvard's Library's Wall was a bestseller in 2007.


The quotations themselves are riddled with grammar mistakes that any native English speaker would spot at a glance.


2."哈佛图书馆墙上的训言"开国际玩笑 作者承认编造
2010年01月27日 09:34　来源：中国青年报　发表评论　　
　　本报记者 来扬 实习生 钟原


　近日，中国青年报记者接到上海市田园高级中学英语教研组组长陈应宏老师的来信，反映部分媒体刊载的“哈佛图书馆墙上的训言”内容不真实。他担心，披上“哈佛”外衣的这些原本不存在的“训言”，会通过其他报纸杂志、互联网等，以讹传讹，流传越来越广。


　　无中生有的“哈佛图书馆墙上的训言”


　　“One day，has not been able again to come.”(一天过完，不会再来。)




　　“Studies this matter，lacks the time，but is lacks diligently.”(学习这件事，不是缺乏时间，而是缺乏努力。)


　　……


　　如果不是亲眼看到这些错误频出的英文版“哈佛图书馆自修室墙上的训言”，陈应宏恐怕不会想到，他会在某一天与大洋彼岸的哈佛大学图书馆建立联系。


　　陈应宏在2009年12月初被告知，学校要请广告公司制作一批中英文对照的标语展板，内容是20句哈佛图书馆墙上的中英文训言。然而，当发现这些训言的英文“一塌糊涂”，有的连主语都没有时，他感到非常意外，并在去年12月14日给哈佛大学图书馆发了一封电子邮件，向其求证是否有这些“训言”。


　　第二天，哈佛大学图书馆研究馆员 Deborah Kelley-Milburn回复了陈应宏的邮件：“已经有很多人就这个问题询问过我们。我想，这是一个在互联网上流传的民间传说。我们哈佛大学里的各家图书馆(哈佛大学共有70余家图书馆——记者注)都没有这类‘训言’。”


3. Chinadaily BBS » English Study» Chinglish 纠错论坛»这就是哈佛的凌晨4点！共勉


堪称 Chinglish 的典范，值得“共勉”！   有谁知道这是出自何人手笔的吗？


4.哈佛大学图书馆馆员 Deborah Kelley-Milburn 在哈佛大学图书馆 Ask a Librarian 上回复學生这个询问
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Q I've heard there is a list of proverbs/mottos/aphorisms on the wall of a Harvard Library. Where can I see them?Asked on Nov 08, 2010  |  9 ViewsTopics: miscellaneousA


Answer:This seems to be a rumor that is prevalent on the Internet, particularly in China. We have found no trace of any mottos on a Harvard library wall.  Please see  this thorough refutation:  
(URL removed).
Answered by  Deborah Kelley-Milburn (130), Nov 08, 2010
作者: TheYeti    时间: 2010-12-25 04:25

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作者: TheYeti    时间: 2010-12-25 04:35

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回复 10# 凉茶

最近
哈佛大学图书馆馆员 Deborah Kelley-Milburn 在哈佛大学图书馆 Ask a Librarian 上回复學生这个询问


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This seems to be a rumor that is prevalent on the Internet, particularly in China.  We have found no trace of any mottos on a Harvard library wall. Please see  this thorough refutation

作者: kobe    时间: 2010-12-25 19:23

This moment will nap, you will have a dream; But this moment study, you will interpret a dream
作者: TheYeti    时间: 2010-12-26 00:42

回复 14# kobe

中文： 此刻打盹，你将做梦；而此刻学习，你将圆梦。 英语译成 This moment will nap, you will have a dream; But this moment study,you will interpret a dream.

(中文的意思是 “你若此刻打盹”, “你”是主语 ，英文变了 “This moment" 是主语！ 变了 "此刻“是而不是 ”人“去打盹。)





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